Chapter 5/6 Response

Chapter Response: Chapter 5

Plot: Beast From Water

Quote: “Maybe,” he said hesitantly, “maybe there is a beast.”

Analysis: This chapter is about a meeting negotiating about the beast. They bring the children who supposedly saw the beast to speak about what they saw. Nobody has a very specific description and chaos breaks out when people start talking about how scary it was.

Even Simon says that he believes there might be a beast. Some speculate that it came from the water while others believe that it is a ghost. Every time the beast was mentioned chaos broke out and Ralph had to try and bring order.

Eventually, while Piggy was talking about the beast, Jack began speaking out. He challenges Ralph's authority and says that he favors Piggy over the others. Jack and his hunters storm off and begin chanting on the beach.

Chapter 5

There were sniggers here and there and swift glances.
"Now people seem to use anywhere. Even near the shelters and the platform. You littluns, when you're getting fruit, if you're taken short----"
The assembly roared.
"I said if you're taken short you keep away from the fruit. That's dirty!"
Laughter rose again.
"I said that's dirty!"
He plucked at his stiff, grey shirt.
"That's really dirty. If you're taken short you go right along the beach to the rocks. See?" ( Pg 80 )

Simon's Death Was Not Necessary- Erika Webb

     Simon's death truly shocked me. I kind of expected the boys to kill someone but I didn't expect it to be Simon. He was the only one truly willing to face this so called "beast". I personally think that he did nothing wrong, he was only try to deminish the fears that everyone has of this mystery beast. Simon was only trying to help the boys and it costed him his life. Through the book Simon has kind of kept to himself. He had his own safe place to go, so he wouldn't bother the other boys. When he finally spoke up with a GOOD idea, he was immediatly shot down and then later murdered at the hands of the bloody thirsty clan ran by Jack.

     Simon's death could and should have been avoided. The boys worry so much about killing rather than the well being of themselves and their peers. Simon went to that mountain to face the beast for the sake of the other boys. He'd found the answers and then got killed. The boys should have slowed down and heard Simon out before getting caught up in the moment and killing him. Simon shouldn't have died.

The Death of Simon

Simon's death was definitely a very iconic event in this novel.  Simon was a very inspirational person to the boys.  He was the person that was like the realistic leader.  Ralph was appointed the leader, but Simon was the leader who had more accuracy of being a leader.  Simon was the only way the boys ever had hope, because Simon always had hope they would be found and that things would be okay and he encouraged that feeling to be felt by the rest of the boys.  I don't think the author of this book should have killed Simon because I feel like Simon was a very crucial character in this book.

Simon's Ending

     Simon's death was tragic. My jaw dropped as Mr. Hollister read it. I think the boys have turned into savages, and that are blood thirsty. Simon was very unlucky. When staggered into the circle, the other boys saw their opportunity for blood. At the point, the boys weren't caring what they were killing as long as they were. 

  They boys started not to care about each other. They were caring more about the blood, the gore. They wanted to kill. To them, that's what felt good, and what made them happy. They no longer caring about Simon. The cared about adding to their addiction, which was death. The brutally murdered their friend, and it didn't phase them. They showed no sad emotion. They were happy with their kill. They were happy.

Simon's Death

I feel that Simon's death was very interesting and I don't think that the author should have killed Simon. Simon climbs to the top of the mountain and he is looking at the great beast because a pig head told him to. He discovers that it isn't a monster and that it is just a human, he has to go tell the other kids. He stumbles down the mountain to go tell them. Meanwhile the other kids are practically feuding over who is the leader and they are chanting about killing pigs. They are gathered around the fire and they started chanting and they got caught up in the moment. Simon comes through and they think he is a pig and they attack him. They stab him and hit him and bite him because they think he is a pig or the beast. Simon ends up dying and they float him out on the water and let it drag him away.

The Death of Simon

Simon was always one to help out, proven by him being one of the few to work on the huts while the majority of the children were out playing on the beach. He was also one of Jack's followers. When they went on one of their hunting trips Simon was there. They found a  sow which was lying down with her piglets and they decide to kill it (which was very wreckless). They launched their spears and landed plenty of hits on it. They began chasing it until they found it in a clearing, to weak to run. They began stabbing it more times until Jack cut it's throats and it died. They decapitated the pig and left its head on a pike wedged into a rock. Simon falls behind because he hears voices. He begins talking to the lord of the flies which had taken refuge in the pig's head. His head begins to throb and his nose begins to bleed then he goes unconscious. When he awakes he climbs the mountain. He examines the "beast" and sees it is only a dead pilot so he ventures down the mountain to the party to tell the others. The parachute carries the pilot away, never to be seen again. Once he arrives at the party they are doing their ritual. Simon gets caught in the middle. They continue chanting "Kill the beast! Cut his throat! Spill his blood!". They begin stabbing him. They are like savages and push him further down the beach. Once killed, his body floats out to sea never to be found.

R.I.P. Simon

Marisa Montgomery
6th Period
Response to Simon's Death

   It seems to me that the death of Simon was the death of any goodness or religion the boys had on the island. This isn't just the death of Simon, it's the death of each and every one of their souls. Simon was the religious figure on the island. The littluns looked up to him because he helped them and fed them fruit. When the boys killed Simon, they lost all hope of being good. The only thing left on the island now is evil.
  From the very beginning, Jack has primarily been the one to want to have 'fun'. He let the signal fire go out so that they could go kill a pig. He continuously chooses killing over being rescued. Now that Jack has separated himself from Ralph, Piggy, and Samneric, the other boys paint and garland him like an idol. After Simon is killed, there is no longer a representation for good. Jack is treated like an 'idol' and he is the only role model they have left.
  Shortly before his death, Simon had a hallucination and was seemingly talking to 'The Lord of the Flies', which is the head of the dead sow on a stick. The Lord of the Flies said to Simon, "Fancy thinking the Beast was something you could hunt and kill!" "You knew didn't you? I'm part of you? Close, close, close! I'm the reason why it's no go? Why things are what they are?"
   Just like Simon had suggested at the meeting, there was nothing to be afraid of on the island but the boys themselves. They all have evil in them, they are the beast. Just as the dead sow said to Simon in his hallucination, this is why things are the way they are on the island. This is why they can't go home. The evil inside of them is overpowering and that is why they care very little about escaping the island. They enjoy being savages. That's what they have become. The beast isn't something they can kill, because it's in all of them. The boys have transformed into 'the Beast' and killed the last silver of goodness they had left.
   When Simon was coming to them as they were chanting, he was only trying to give them the information they needed to not be scared anymore. They killed the thing that would stop their fear. That might help them get a little closer to making it home. They killed hope, wisdom, and goodness and in turn chose fear, evil, and darkness.
   The weather mirrors what is going on around them. It is a rainy thunderstorm. All the light has left the sky, just like the goodness has left the island now that Simon is gone.This is the point of no return.

The plot summary of 3/4

The whole plot of the story is beginning to unfold. You are starting to see how these kids are under the influence of the island. The kids are starting to become more barbaric while being on this island. They boys showed up on the island completely sane and shaped by the previous society. The plot seemed to be these boys on an island that were very differnent and made what they had work. All of this humane. The plot progresses to show that they can not handle these things by themselves and they fall under certain archetypes which show strong and conflict with the others. This is also the reason for some of the problems on the island.

In the following paragraph show the conflict between jack and ralph which is an example of how conflicts are affecting the plot.

“ ”You wouldn’t care to help with the shelters, I suppose?” “We want meat—”

“And we don’t get it.”

Now the antagonism was audible.

“But I shall! Next time! I’ve got to get a barb on this spear! We wounded a pig and the spear fell out. If we could only make barbs— ”

Lord of the flies chp 3&4

Setting:
The boys in this story are stranded on a uninhabited island. The island have thick jungles/forest and dense undergrowth with plenty of food on it like wild fruits and boars. The boys are mostly at a lagoon unless out hunting then they would go to the top of the mountain. The signal fire is supposed to be at the of that mountain.  It can be assumed that this story is placed somewhere around the 1950's.

Lord of the flies chp 1&2

Characters:
The main are Ralph, Piggy, Jack, Simon, Roger, Sam and Eric (Samneric).
Ralph was the elected leader of the boys. He's not the smartest or the strongest but he is kind and respectful. Piggy is known for his smarts but is picked on because of his weight and/or asthma. He is loyal to Ralph. Jack is the leader of the hunters. He loves to hunt.

Simon is the odd one in the group. He is usually out by himself in the jungle. But only Simon understands the true nature of the "beast". Roger is like the extra load you have to carry. He is in Jacks group but becomes a hangmen.
Sam and Eric are twin boys who are in charge of keeping the signal fire going. They are loyal to Ralph.

Less main characters are Littluns ages 6 and up . the lowest class in the groups. Maurice who is loyal to Jack and does raids with him.  Robert who plays the role as the pig when horse playing. Percival who is a littlun and has a nervous breakdown and is picked on. Johnny the smallest littlun and Henry the biggest littlun.

LOTF Ch 3&4 Response

   

"He looked in astonishment, no longer at himself but at an awesome stranger... He capered towered Bill, and the mask was a thing on its own, behind which Jack hid, liberated from shame and self consciousness."

 

Jack finds liberation behind the "mask" in his new persona. It is both is and isn't a mask. Literally it is just some mud he put on his face to help in the hunt but to Jack it represents much, much more. Figuratively it represents him masking his old life and letting his new self take over

 

Jack was a choir boy and went to a military academy and those who are sent there usually have some problem at home or previous schooling. In the beginning of the story Jack seems to have quelled these rebellious activities but his experiences on the island have let them reign free. The mask gives him the freedom.

 

Jack is almost like a superhero in this sense. He dawns a new persona when he puts on a mask. It has yet to be seen which is the true Jack. Is he like Bruce Wayne where Batman is the real person and Bruce Wayne is the person that he puts on or is he like Clark Kent where he and Superman are one in the same? I'm going to hedge a bet that he is the prior but he isn't as heroic as either.

 

 

Chapter 3/4 Characters LOTF

Ch. 3 Characters LOTF

"Simon found for them the fruit they could not reach, pulled off the choicest from up in the foliage, passed them back down to the endless, outstretched hands. When he had satisfied them he paused and looked round. The littluns watched him inscrutably over double handfuls of ripe fruit." - LOTF pg. 56



Many characters in Chapters 3/4 started to reveal a little more about themselves. But one in particular stood out to me, Simon. The way he acted in these two chapters showed me the most about his character.

In this paragraph, you get to see how generous Simon actually is. Instead of walking past them, or even getting some fruit for himself, he used his time to help the other kids in need.

In an analytical type of way, the littleuns represent the average person. So, if Simon is helping the littleuns, I think he represents a part of the government. I only say this because he is usually one of the only people helping out on a lot of things that will help everyone on the island. 

chapter 3 response- themes by Erika Webb

                                                      Jack and Ralph are Obsessed  

The boys had been on the island for a while now and they needed to form a plan to ensure their survival. Ralph, along with others, wanted to build shelters. They wanted to keep warm through the cool nights, dry from the rain, and safe from the outside. Ralph was over ran by the thoughts of shelter. It was all he cared about. Ralph thought that building shelter was the only way to survive.

     Jack became embroiled in the thought of killing, for survival. Day or night he hunted for pigs. He tracked them, but failed to kill any. He was losing his sense of civilization to the sport of hunting. Jack gave no regard to Ralph and his way of leading. Jack didn't care about shelter. he cared about hunting. He thought that killing was the only way they would make on the island.

     Both boys only had the island and the other boys in mind, but both became obsessed with surviving. Though they thought of two different ways to do so, they were still obsessed.  The thought consumed every bit of them. Jack and Ralph had even argued about what was and was not necessary to make it on the island. Different aspects of survival tormented their minds and divided them into groups.

Characters in LOTF

Dylan Massey

6th Period

Around chapter 3 and 4, the characters begin to change in the way they act, feel, and think with the others in the group.  More specifically, Jack’s attitude changes drastically from when they arrived on the island to what it is now. “Jack tried to convey the compulsion to track down and kill that was swallowing him up. I went on. I thought, by myself. The madness came into his eyes again. I thought I might kill.”

In the beginning, Jack was cooperative, loyal, and caring for the most part.  It would take a great force for him to kill in the beginning of the book.  However, something tips him off, Ralph and his leadership efforts begin to anger and frustrate Jack.  He begins to resent Ralph’s decisions and judgement as the leader, and this in return causes some division in the group.  Soon, Jack will become a savage as the story goes on if he continues to disagree with Ralph.

Lord of the Flies Chapter 3&4 Response

     Characters:

     There are many different Characters in Lord of the Flies. Some are more important than others, but all are used to paint this bigger picture. Something more than just the Island. Instantly Ralph jumps in to the position of one of the main protagonists. 

Ralph is this perfect image of a strong leader. Someone who can well put his thoughts into word, and has a voice that is well heard and strong. Ralph uses this ability of his to lead the boys. He does his very best but constantly has to fight for control. There can be no control with order. 

This is where are antagonist comes in. Jack is the complete opposite of Ralph. Jack shows up on the island, leading the choir boys, and when Ralph is made the leader, the Rivalry begins. Ralph is this symbol of law and order, and Jack becomes the symbol of chaos and savagery. Ralph constantly tries to hold order, only for Jack and his Hunters to destroy it. This is where the main conflict between the characters comes from. The constant battle between order and savagery.

Chapter 3/4 Response

Chapter Response: Chapter 3

Setting: Huts on the Beach

Quote:"Beyond these was the glitter of the sea and he could hear voices. Ralph was standing by a contraption of palm trunks and leaves, a rude shelter that faced the lagoon and seemed very near to falling down."

Analysis:This chapter starts in the dense jungle with Jack and his hunters. He has been tracking pigs hoping to kill one to feed the camp. He finds a group of pigs but is unsuccessful when his spear falls out of the pig.

After the hunt fails he makes his way to the beach where he finds Ralph and Simon. They were created rudimentary huts out of sticks and leaves. They were the only people working on the huts whilst the rest of the group is off doing other things.

This shows that Simon and Ralph are the dependable workers of the group who will complete their tasks. On the other hand the other children are represented as lazy people who only do some of their work and leave the rest to the few workers (20% of the people do 80% percent of the work).

LOTF Chapter 4 Response: Symbolism

     Chapter 4 is a very busy chapter and lots of things happen. Lots of different emotions are expressed and you have to look at each character and their decisions. “You let the fire go out.”
"This repetition made Jack uneasy. He looked at the twins and then
back at Ralph."


     This chapter really deals with the conflict between Ralph and Jack. Jack wants the thrill of hunting and the respect that he's given from it. Ralph has taken the role of the leader and he wants himself and the others to be rescued. 

Ralph admires and cares about the fire. The fire symbolizes a way home. It represents a way off the island and back into the real world. He doesn't want to stay there forever and his efforts throughout the day go towards keeping organization throughout the island and ensuring that everyone is participating in going home. I'm sure he knows eventually that everyone will want to go home, including Jack. 

     Jack doesn't see what the fire represents. He thinks it no big deal for it to go out. He doesn't care about it the way Jack does and he might not for a long time. He represents a rebel in the group. Jack wants to rebel and he has the ability to make others follow him regardless of their true feelings.

    To Ralph, the fire represents rescue, freedom, and life. However to Jack, the fire represents a fire. Ralph still has some authority and control over Jack. Jack still has a fear of Ralph whether he admits it or not. "No one, not even Jack, would ask him to move and in the end they had to build the fire three yards away and in a place not really as convenient."

An Average Article

     "Here the littuns who had run after him caught up with him. They talked, cried out intelligibly, legged him toward the trees. Then, amid the roar of bees in the afternoon of the sunlight, Simon found for them the fruit the could not reach, pulled off the choices from up in the foliage, passed them back down to the endless,outstretched hands."

     Simon called the littuns average people in a normal society. He knew they needed more help than the rest of the boys. Simon thought deeper about the littuns more than anyone else. He , to me, worries about the littuns.
     Simon go and gets the littuns the fruit. Nobody else would've stopped to help them. Simon actually thought something of the littuns. Even though he referred to the littuns as average people, he treated them as if they were higher in society. He gave more thought to them than anyone else. 
     They "cried out," and "legged him" towards the trees. They knew if they asked Simon he was going to help them. He wouldn't be like Jack and push them to the side. Simon saw some importance in them.
     Simon "found them the fruit they could not reach," "pulled it off", and gave the fruit the littuns. Simon cared for them enough to get them the fruit they needed. Simon could've said no and kept it for himself, but he didn't. He showed exceptional character in getting them the fruit. Simon was kind hearted.

I have chose to do symbolism, because there are so many things that are being symbolized in this book. I specifically have chosen glasses, because they are used for so many things and they seem to keep coming up. They use Piggy's glasses for everything, to light the fire, for Piggy to see what he is doing everything. Even when they are broken and missing a lens Piggy still uses them because he cant see without them.

Lord of the Flies: Chapter 4 Response

Characters

In chapter four, on pages sixty-three and sixty four it says, "He looked in astonishment, no longer at himself but at an awesome stranger....He began to dance and his laughter became a bloodthirsty snarling. He capered toward Bill, and the mask was a thing on its own, behind which Jack hid, liberated from shame and self-consciousness." 

In this part of the story you see Jack in a new light. He used the face paint to camouflage himself, and it not only made him look like something different, but it turned him into something different. It made him savage, and chief. 

It says that the mask he made became a thing on its own, and he hid behind it liberated from shame and self-conciousness. As the author shows Jack, he is savage and ready to be chief. 

  

LOTF Picture Post Larissa Allen

Lord of the Flies Themes

Lord of the Flies Themes

Marisa Montgomery

Period 6

"Jack began to dance and his laughter became bloodthirsty snarling."

   A theme from Lord of the Flies that seems to frequently resurface is the difficulty the boys have with distinguishing the difference between proper civilization and savagery. They try to establish rules and create a civilization, but it is often thrown to the wind. The conch, which is meant to give a sense of order, is seldom respected or used in the correct way. The rules, like keeping the signal fire going in the case of rescue, are quickly discarded. They all talk about wanting to be rescued, yet there are only a few of them who put in an effort to make this happen. They're slowing turning into bloodthirsty savages and they don't even realize it.

   They also do things that seem reasonable, but they have the wrong motive behind it. When Jack paints his face to go hunt the pig, his motive is wrong. He becomes bloodthirsty and wants to kill instead of wanting to feed all of the boys. These young people are slowly turning away from civilization and turning away from what they know is right.

   

LOTF Symbolism

You can find many things in Lord of the Flies that can symbolize something.  First example of symbolism is the conch shell.  Ralph and Piggy discover the conch shell on the beach at the beginning of the novel and use it to call for the boys to come together after the crash separates them.  The conch shell then becomes a powerful symbol of civilization and order in the novel.

Another example of symbolism is Piggy’s glasses.  Piggy is the most intelligent and he is also the most logical boy in the group.  His glasses represent the power of science and mental undertake in a society.  This sign of symbolism is clear from the start of the novel when the boys use his glasses to start the fire.

Setting LOTF chapter 1

     In chapter 1 of Lord of the Flies, the setting was described well but it only described the scenes the boys had seen.  So as we go continue to read the story, whatever the boys saw was described to us.
     "The shore was fledged with palm trees. These stood or leaned or reclined against the light and their green feathers were a hundred feet up in the air."  This quote from the book tells us that the beach had a lot of trees.  They surrounded the sandy shore and provided shade for anything underneath them.  Some were standing straight while others were leaning.